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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #60 on: 18 July, 2016, 12:18:46 »
Hi, just curious, but why are auto locks and bypassing no-no's? Not overly concerned, but I like to dabble in all areas of lock opening.
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #61 on: 18 July, 2016, 12:29:51 »
basically because it is not part of Locksport and also, I do all my picking in the hand so kind of difficult to hold a car - last time I tried I had a hernia lol

one reason is that we don't really want to attract those nice people who are just looking for a quick way to break in to cars or into other folk's property - we are a hobby site for enthusiasts and that is who we cater for
stop asking questions and get out the grinder - learning how to make picks comes from doing it and not from reading answers

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #62 on: 18 July, 2016, 12:32:39 »
Bypassing requires little to no skill and can be used by criminals to rob your shed. Picking requires practice and skill, even raking.
Auto is a whole other world that is usually left to professionals and theives.
Part take in all aspects of lock sport but leave some stuff of open forum and public domain.
The above is not taboo as we all do it but don't show to general public.

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #63 on: 18 July, 2016, 12:35:55 »
A subject like auto locksmithing is a very specialized area, as well as sensitive one. They're also not usually a subject that guys new to locksport are going to get into because of the availability of locks to practice on, and the huge expense in tools.

Knowledge of auto locksmithing can also be very attractive to guys with a malicious intent, and to discuss this in an open public forum can lead to accusations. Of course, the same can be said about regular locks, and we watch that aspect by keeping guidelines such as not picking locks in use and not picking a lock that we have no permission to.

Another point to raise is that we are into this for sport, which is unlikely to involve auto locks.

Same goes for bypass techniques, but also they don't involve any skill as such, and so I would also not consider it as a sport.

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #64 on: 18 July, 2016, 12:43:36 »
Ok thanks! Auto is a weird one as most (older) car door locks are just fancy wafer locks and offer little more than a mild deterrent to passers by. But I will respect the rules of the forum. As and when my whim takes the hobby further into the world of auto locks, I'm sure I'll be directed to the appropriate place to discuss it!
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #65 on: 05 October, 2016, 19:50:27 »
Read the rules very sensible, love the forum can't wait to get started
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #66 on: 28 November, 2016, 14:05:21 »
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Please read the rules every so often as they may change without notice



0. Your First Post - your first post on the site should be in the new members section. Please do not post anywhere else until you introduce yourself - this is so that we can all get to know each other and welcome you properly into the community.

1. Destructive Entry - No destructive entry questions or discussions are permitted in an open forum, do not ask! This forum is purely a non destructive site dedicated to hobby lockpickers.

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3. Safes and Safe Locks - Topics that include subject matter on safes or their locking mechanisms are not permitted on the open forum .... because

4. Bypass Techniques - Topics that include subject matter on lock bypass techniques (including combination locks) are not permitted on the open forum .... because

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #67 on: 28 November, 2016, 14:26:44 »
Hi Bumper@654, it appears that despite quoting all the rules, you failed to comply with the first one. Pop over to the 'introduce yourself' thread and tell us a little about yourself  :)
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #68 on: 10 April, 2017, 21:57:36 »
This might be stupid and I should know better but...
As Baldi writes
Bypassing requires little to no skill and can be used by criminals to rob your shed. Picking requires practice and skill, even raking.
Auto is a whole other world that is usually left to professionals and theives.
Part take in all aspects of lock sport but leave some stuff of open forum and public domain.
The above is not taboo as we all do it but don't show to general public.
Does this mean that I can pick a car lock for example but I'm not permitted to put it up on the "What I've picked today"-thread due to rule 2? As a continue to that lock, ok or not ok to send it forward to another member on the site? Use it as a part of a competition?

As I said above, it might be stupid questions and, just to be clear, it's not the rule I'm question. These questions comes more to know how to behave to not violate it. With Baldi's comment in mind.
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #69 on: 10 April, 2017, 22:14:10 »
I think baldi's comment "we all do it "does not refer to auto locks

what we do in private is generally our own business but what we do/post on the forum is governed by the rules - no auto locks irrespective of the thread or purpose in the open forum

there is a VIP section where some rules are relaxed but I can tell you that I'd hard pressed to remember a time when auto locks were discussed and I can certainly not remember any car lock pass arounds or competitions etc

in the main, we are all here for locksport and car locks is not part of that

stop asking questions and get out the grinder - learning how to make picks comes from doing it and not from reading answers

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #70 on: 10 April, 2017, 22:52:24 »
Right :) It looks like I read that post in a different way than it was supposed to. That makes sense.

I have no intentions to pass any auto locks around or start a competition with one involved, I felt more that better ask and look stupid for a while than not ask and walk in the dark if it was this or that. I appologise if I went over the line in any meaning, not what I had in mind but it happens sometimes when things comes out wrong.
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #71 on: 10 April, 2017, 22:56:37 »
a lot of times in life it is better (more fun?) to ask for forgiveness rather than permission

but when it comes to forum rules, you did the right thing in getting clarification first
stop asking questions and get out the grinder - learning how to make picks comes from doing it and not from reading answers

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #72 on: 28 June, 2017, 09:27:34 »
a lot of times in life the Bathmate X50 is better (more fun?) to ask for forgiveness rather than permission

but when it comes to forum rules, you did the right thing in getting clarification first

The rules are read!
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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #73 on: 28 June, 2017, 11:50:39 »
The rules are read!

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0. Your First Post - your first post on the site should be in the new members section. Please do not post anywhere else until you introduce yourself - this is so that we can all get to know each other and welcome you properly into the community.

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Re: Please read the rules
« Reply #74 on: 13 July, 2017, 21:58:07 »
Just another reminder of why we don't pick locks in use...

Just had a lad who got into trouble picking the front door lock with his new Southord set. Pick got stuck and he had to drill the lock out and with nowhere to get a replacement at this time of night he had to pay for a locksmith to come and sort it out for him.

On the plus side, he called me and I was able to give him an old lock to play with and I directed him to the forum so hopefully he will have learnt his lesson and has found a good hobby.
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