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Title: Please read the rules
Post by: Pickwizard on 11 December, 2010, 17:30:51
Last edit: 26 July 2016


Please read the rules every so often as they may change without notice



0. Your First Post - your first post on the site should be in the new members section (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?board=9.0). Please do not post anywhere else until you introduce yourself - this is so that we can all get to know each other and welcome you properly into the community.

1. Destructive Entry - No destructive entry questions or discussions are permitted in an open forum, do not ask! This forum is purely a non destructive site dedicated to hobby lockpickers.

2. Vehicle Locks - Topics that include subject matter on vehicle locks (picking, bypassing or other  method) are not permitted on the open forum .... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg170969;topicseen#msg170969)

3. Safes and Safe Locks - Topics that include subject matter on safes or their locking mechanisms are not permitted on the open forum .... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg116806;topicseen#msg116806)

4. Bypass Techniques - Topics that include subject matter on lock bypass techniques (including combination locks) are not permitted on the open forum .... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg170969;topicseen#msg170969)

5. Locks in Use - We are a locksport site, please do not ask about or show the picking of locks which are in use or do not belong to you ..... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=7197.msg122722;topicseen#msg122722) and because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg132952#msg132952)

6. Registration Agreement - All members are expected to abide by the Registration Agreement (http://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?action=register) they agreed to when signing up to be a forum member.

7. Competitions - A member running the competition can make their own rules, but unless otherwise stated, a member needs to have at least 10 rep points to enter a competition.

8. External Links and sites - Members are allowed to post links to other sites, if they are relevant to the topic in question.
If a member wishes to post forum links to any other site a link back to this forum is necessary, and permission must be obtained from the forum Admin before hand.

You are not permitted to promote other sites or shops without prior permission from Admin, this includes videos, photos or posts.

9. Signatures - Links to other sites in signatures are not permitted without prior permission from the Admin.

10. Copyright - Links to copyrighted material or plagiarising of material outside the forum are not permitted.

11. Issue Resolution and Final Decision - If an issue or decision cannot be settled by PM discussion or mediation, then Admin members will make a final decision. Discussion of issues should be in private rather than in the open forum.

12. Downloaded Material - Members accept responsibility to scan any materials downloaded from the forum for malware. Admin can accept no responsibility for any damage in these cases.

13. Login - A member is allowed one login to this forum, any member with more than a single login will be warned and if that is ignored, they will be banned. If for some reason a second login is needed, please contact the Admin. No exceptions to this rule.

14. Login - Please remember you must be 18 or over to use this forum.

15. Selling - A member is only permitted to sell items on the forum, if they abide by the Selling Rules (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=5.0).

16. Private Messaging - Please do not send Private Messages to members with unsolicited or cold questions. Use the forum, that's what it's here for, plus it helps others with the same question.

17. Private Message Contents - While Private Messages allow members to communicate outside of the forum topics, please remember these communications are stored in the forums database, and they are accessible by administrators, if required by law or that illegal activities or infringement of the forum rules is strongly suspected.

18. Forum Chat - All members are welcome to participate in the Forum Chat. Access is given through requests here (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=5579.msg72309#msg72309), once a member has introduced themselves. However, if a member is seen to participate in abuse, spam or disharmony, access will be immediately withdrawn.

19. Play Nice - Complaints of harassment, flaming or insulting behaviour towards a member, Mods or Admin members can result in a temporary or permanent ban. This also refers to members whose forum activities become persistently difficult to deal with and interferes with the harmony of the community or the duties of Mods or Admin. In short, play nice.

20. Hacking - Circumventing, attempting to circumvent, or facilitating circumvention of forum access levels or security measures can be grounds for an immediate ban without warning.



Please read the rules every so often as they may change without notice  ;)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: waddac2 on 16 December, 2010, 01:07:24
Nice one Wiz........ Yes guys all is welcome from Newbies, and all welcome from Pros

Or sould I Say Wiz, Forum is for all you guys trying, and getting better, so well done

If Helpin any way as A newbs, Pop A Post On As I have Been There, As Others Have

Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: jaydee on 23 November, 2012, 13:10:53
Well now these are certainly rules one can live with.....
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: tommym87 on 18 August, 2013, 01:19:12
sound very reasonable pickwizzard. and great forum mate.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Hiding on 01 November, 2013, 22:43:37
 :goodpost:  :beer: I'm in for the long haul now.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: caretaker on 02 April, 2014, 22:21:46
common sense rules,i was all letterbox tools&bumping,now i can pick locks thanks to this site,cheers!
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: motorbiker on 11 May, 2014, 11:01:40
 :c017: YES BOSS  :72: im glad i red the rules agen to remmined my self befor giving tips on safes its onley whot i picked up from you tube eney way. I will keep seald on thows topiks thank you.  :s_cool: im glad i joined hear i enjoy are sport more with you giys. ytb
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: LordDarcy on 10 February, 2015, 21:01:53
 :c017:
Good rules. Thanks.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: zippo on 13 June, 2015, 15:58:51
rules is rules.....looking forward to learning something thanks
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Scurlock on 14 June, 2015, 19:58:33
good rules
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: coily on 18 June, 2015, 20:02:20
no 7   :hee20hee20hee:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: insecure on 19 June, 2015, 20:44:07
no 7   :hee20hee20hee:

I actually like that rule, that would have been handy in my IRC OP days...
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: meme on 19 June, 2015, 21:29:12
yep, agreed. No 7 is essential in any forum to avoid arguments.

One thing that is not mentioned is a rule stating the equivalent of "play nice" ie respect each other, don't be abusive, don't mention the war etc etc. I kind of like that since it implies that that sort of carry on doesn't go on here hence no need to legislate for it.

One thing I would do is to take out all the please's.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Pickbeard 7721 on 19 June, 2015, 21:36:22
yep, agreed. No 7 is essential in any forum to avoid arguments.

One thing that is not mentioned is a rule stating the equivalent of "play nice" ie respect each other, don't be abusive, don't mention the war etc etc. I kind of like that since it implies that that sort of carry on doesn't go on here hence no need to legislate for it.

One thing I would do is to take out all the please's.

No7 ta da!!
Spelt it wrong so not infringing copy rights!! :85:
Plus you didn't say please remove the please's!! :08:( not very polite was it?! :hee20hee20hee:)
Will always be read if a bit of manners is added,plus shows what people are running the gaff if it's used( just my opinion,know one has to agree). :88:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: meme on 19 June, 2015, 21:49:08
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you didn't say ....
Reminds of when we used to play Simple Simon as kids - no rule or instruction was valid unless preceeded by Simple Simon says :)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 19 June, 2015, 22:31:50
I've tidied things up a bit and number 7 is now number 6 just to cause confusion.

Please, please, please re-familiarise yourself  :hee20hee20hee:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: ritchy on 19 June, 2015, 23:21:22
I've tidied things up a bit and number 7 is now number 6 just to cause confusion.

Please, please, please re-familiarise yourself  :hee20hee20hee:

Will do thanks thanks and thank you..... :)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: radical rob on 11 August, 2015, 03:31:44
Pretty easy set of rules to follow, just super curious why no automotive lock talk?????
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 11 August, 2015, 08:19:34
Rob, please introduce yourself before questioning our long established rules.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Shearlock on 19 August, 2015, 14:37:38
I have a question, please understand this is literally for my own curiosity.  I have zero interest in Auto lock stuff, but am curious as to why it's forbidden.  I understand that bypassing is destructive, so that makes sense to me.  I'm just curious about why automobile locks are forbidden subject matter.  I'm asking for my own personal knowledge so that I understand the rules and reasons.

I'm new to the forums, forgive my ignorance if the answer is obvious but has eluded me.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Shearlock on 19 August, 2015, 14:40:18
Just realized someone else asked the same question, and was said to have "questioned" the rules.

To be clear, i am not questioning them. I am purely and sincerely wanting to understand one of them, I'm compulsive and can't stand not knowing something. Lol

;)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: MrAnybody on 19 August, 2015, 14:53:37
No worries, Shearlock. It's a good question.

Subjects like auto and safe locksmithing are very specialized areas, as well as sensitive ones. They're also not usually subjects that guys new to locksport are going to get into because of the availability of locks to practice on, and the huge expense in tools.

Knowledge of auto locksmithing can also be very attractive to guys with a malicious intent, and to discuss this in an open public forum can lead to accusations. Of course, the same can be said about regular locks, and we watch that aspect by keeping guidelines such as not picking locks in use and not picking a lock that we have no permission to.

Another point to raise is that we are into this for sport, which is unlikely to involve auto locks.

Feel free to ask away, if you need. I'm sure Mark and others will add more.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: ucof on 19 August, 2015, 15:00:03
Another point to raise is that we are into this for sport, which is unlikely to involve auto locks.

That, sums it up for me.
I won't be spending my evening, outside in the rain and the dark, bending over my car....




...wait for it....





.....that's my wife's job.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Shearlock on 19 August, 2015, 15:00:36
Ah, that's makes perfect sense. Thanks for enlightening me. I was honestly just curious!

I didn't know if it was due to malicious intents, or if there was some rivalry between lock pickers and auto pickers, lmfao

Now I know, and I couldn't agree more with the rules.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Shearlock on 19 August, 2015, 15:04:53
Funny, I've never had to bend over my car. I think Uconf has methods that are NSFW at best.  Lmao!
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 19 August, 2015, 15:05:04
Nothing to add here. My previous comment was aimed at the lack of etiquette rather than the question itself.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: meme on 19 August, 2015, 18:59:03
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please understand this is literally for my own curiosity.  I have zero interest in Auto lock stuff, but am curious as to why it's forbidden
Because if we told you everything we know then you would drive off with the information lol - also, by holding something back we engender a mystique.

Seriously, there's enough to be talking about with pin tumblers, dimples, wafers, vids, shiney stuff we have received or picked, as well as your upcoming acting career.

Locksport and autos may share locks but they are completly differnt interests. Same thing with gutting vids and the vids that picky likes to watch. The site/forum is about LOCKSPORT and only locksport.

That said, I will compromise with you - show me a pic of a car in a vice on your kitchen table and I'll tell you how to open it (dinkies/matel don't count)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Steelrhino on 29 September, 2015, 15:21:39
Read and understood, good to be on here
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: welard on 04 October, 2015, 12:43:37
all read and understood:) love rule 5
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: MikeC on 06 October, 2015, 15:53:45
Read and understood.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: insecure on 06 October, 2015, 20:19:57
all read and understood:) love rule 5

Any and every admin who uses SMF is always right!
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Casey on 27 November, 2015, 10:00:27
Hmmmm as a newbie I dont understand 8 and 15 but then i cant ask so will never know ??? :grrr:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 27 November, 2015, 10:18:13
8 is easy, no talking about car locks.

15 means stick to picking locks and you will be ok, you will learn more as you progress.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Gone on 27 November, 2015, 10:19:03

Hmmmm as a newbie I dont understand 8 and 15 but then i cant ask so will never know ??? :grrr:


That's the spirit! :)

Bypassing is bypassing the locks main function by unlocking it in a way that a key is not needed. Non destructive and usually faster then using a key.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Casey on 27 November, 2015, 10:40:57
8 is easy, no talking about car locks.

15 means stick to picking locks and you will be ok, you will learn more as you progress.


Ahh i thought it meant auto lock picking tools.....derrrrrrrrr
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 18 December, 2015, 17:32:31
I'll leave this here so it doesn't get lost...

We are constantly being asked why you should not pick locks that are in use, well here is a perfect example. Not a great picture but what you are looking at is part of a hair clip or bobby pin which was being used to legitimately gain entry to a property. The metal broke off in the lock which meant that when somebody with the correct key turned up they still could not get in and had to call me to open the door and extract the offending clip.

(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z362/markpdoyle/Locksport/UKLS/Misc/20151218_163507_zpsool5riki.jpg)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: ritchy on 18 December, 2015, 18:25:29
What was the make of lock Mark ?
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 18 December, 2015, 18:56:17
ehm, I have no idea... It was a rim cylinder so I'm going to guess at Yale, does it matter?
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: ritchy on 18 December, 2015, 19:18:43
No dosn't matter was just curious.....probably been watching YT vids and thought I can do that...... :hee20hee20hee:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: insecure on 19 December, 2015, 01:57:05
Sometimes I don't know if my family is inviting me or if they are inviting my picks or broken key extractor... :crazy:

 :goodpost: Mark!
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Pickbeard 7721 on 19 December, 2015, 02:29:09
Sometimes I don't know if my family is inviting me or if they are inviting my picks or broken key extractor... :crazy:

 :goodpost: Mark!

Teach a couple of them ,then you can say do it your bloody self( then get MarkD's number and give it to them as well)
That way everyone wins  :hee20hee20hee:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: LocksportSouth on 19 December, 2015, 02:43:14
I just realised that a couple of the rules, such as 7 and 15, say XYZ not to be discussed on the open forum. Does that mean that there's a secret, non-open forum for people of a certain stature / post level? Or is it just taken to mean -the forum-?

If you tell me it's the latter I'll assume it's like fight club...  :xcool:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: MrAnybody on 19 December, 2015, 14:05:26
The super secret nudge-nudge-wink-wink part of the forum comprises of forum members who have been selected in a completely normal locksport forum ritual (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=8654.msg119868#msg119868)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: LocksportSouth on 19 December, 2015, 16:35:20
Quote

An Error Has Occurred!
The topic or board you are looking for appears to be either missing or off limits to you.

Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! :D
Maybe it's just like the force, and If you're not strong enough with it to see the post, you can't become a jedi :D
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Pickwizard on 19 December, 2015, 17:06:58
I just realised that a couple of the rules, such as 7 and 15, say XYZ not to be discussed on the open forum. Does that mean that there's a secret, non-open forum for people of a certain stature / post level? Or is it just taken to mean -the forum-?

If you tell me it's the latter I'll assume it's like fight club...  :xcool:

Dam we have been tumbled lol, been waiting years for someone to question this ;)

As you may know or have noticed we do indeed have a VIP section for members we vote in under a strict criteria, we also have an even higher level of restriction for trading locksmiths, where some discussion but still not all is allowed
Some things are for designated site only, typical example Safe entry.

Access to higher members profile are given via team members proposals and not given on request so please do not ask as a refusal often offends
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: LocksportSouth on 19 December, 2015, 17:27:40
Totally fair and understandable along with the rules :)
Thanks again for providing us all with a great place to chat about locks and locksport related subjects together!
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Infusion on 27 December, 2015, 00:54:23
Read and understood ;)
 :08:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: 007dave on 19 January, 2016, 20:36:01
All good
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Mike Day on 08 March, 2016, 12:46:23
Sounds sensible, thanks.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: ucof on 23 March, 2016, 15:27:18
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1. Competitions, the person running the competition will make their own rules but unless otherwise stated you will need to have 20 posts to enter.

Can we change this to 15 "Thanks" rather than post count, please?
It ends up with people just spamming the site otherwise.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Sir Steensy on 24 March, 2016, 10:39:36
I know it's just a guide but I like the idea of it being +1's too. Maby only 10 though. But at the same time down to the person trading to make there own rules but this may at least as Ucof said stop people just posting to get some locks
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 24 March, 2016, 11:57:03
Changed to 10 rep points  tup
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: ucof on 24 March, 2016, 12:33:43
Cheers Mark! :)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Baldiloks on 24 March, 2016, 13:54:04
Probably a better idea, nice one gents.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: tensile_spider on 26 March, 2016, 10:39:34
Perhaps we need a rule that states posts should be written in English?

I'm sorry if that sounds douchey, it's not meant to.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 26 March, 2016, 12:40:50
I think that would exclude most people lol
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: insecure on 26 March, 2016, 14:38:45
I think that would exclude most people lol

Estoy de acuerdo Mark :08:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Keylocks1971 on 05 May, 2016, 10:51:36
This is my first time using a forum and the rules are a great help I just wish I had read them before I sent a PM to Waddac2c.

My apologies to him  :sorry:
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: oceanaut on 14 June, 2016, 22:23:10
 :03:
The link to 'selling rules' in rule 13 doesn't seem to work. Not that I want sell anything...
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: markd on 14 June, 2016, 22:45:25
Well spotted, link fixed.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Lock_Noob on 18 July, 2016, 12:18:46
Hi, just curious, but why are auto locks and bypassing no-no's? Not overly concerned, but I like to dabble in all areas of lock opening.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: meme on 18 July, 2016, 12:29:51
basically because it is not part of Locksport and also, I do all my picking in the hand so kind of difficult to hold a car - last time I tried I had a hernia lol

one reason is that we don't really want to attract those nice people who are just looking for a quick way to break in to cars or into other folk's property - we are a hobby site for enthusiasts and that is who we cater for
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Baldiloks on 18 July, 2016, 12:32:39
Bypassing requires little to no skill and can be used by criminals to rob your shed. Picking requires practice and skill, even raking.
Auto is a whole other world that is usually left to professionals and theives.
Part take in all aspects of lock sport but leave some stuff of open forum and public domain.
The above is not taboo as we all do it but don't show to general public.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: MrAnybody on 18 July, 2016, 12:35:55
A subject like auto locksmithing is a very specialized area, as well as sensitive one. They're also not usually a subject that guys new to locksport are going to get into because of the availability of locks to practice on, and the huge expense in tools.

Knowledge of auto locksmithing can also be very attractive to guys with a malicious intent, and to discuss this in an open public forum can lead to accusations. Of course, the same can be said about regular locks, and we watch that aspect by keeping guidelines such as not picking locks in use and not picking a lock that we have no permission to.

Another point to raise is that we are into this for sport, which is unlikely to involve auto locks.

Same goes for bypass techniques, but also they don't involve any skill as such, and so I would also not consider it as a sport.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Lock_Noob on 18 July, 2016, 12:43:36
Ok thanks! Auto is a weird one as most (older) car door locks are just fancy wafer locks and offer little more than a mild deterrent to passers by. But I will respect the rules of the forum. As and when my whim takes the hobby further into the world of auto locks, I'm sure I'll be directed to the appropriate place to discuss it!
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: graybo on 05 October, 2016, 19:50:27
Read the rules very sensible, love the forum can't wait to get started
Well done
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Bumper@654 on 28 November, 2016, 14:05:21
 :s_hi: :sign0144:
Last edit: 26 July 2016


Please read the rules every so often as they may change without notice



0. Your First Post - your first post on the site should be in the new members section (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?board=9.0). Please do not post anywhere else until you introduce yourself - this is so that we can all get to know each other and welcome you properly into the community.

1. Destructive Entry - No destructive entry questions or discussions are permitted in an open forum, do not ask! This forum is purely a non destructive site dedicated to hobby lockpickers.

2. Vehicle Locks - Topics that include subject matter on vehicle locks (picking, bypassing or other  method) are not permitted on the open forum .... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg170969;topicseen#msg170969)

3. Safes and Safe Locks - Topics that include subject matter on safes or their locking mechanisms are not permitted on the open forum .... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg116806;topicseen#msg116806)

4. Bypass Techniques - Topics that include subject matter on lock bypass techniques (including combination locks) are not permitted on the open forum .... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg170969;topicseen#msg170969)

5. Locks in Use - We are a locksport site, please do not ask about or show the picking of locks which are in use or do not belong to you ..... because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=7197.msg122722;topicseen#msg122722) and because (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=38.msg132952#msg132952)

6. Registration Agreement - All members are expected to abide by the Registration Agreement (http://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?action=register) they agreed to when signing up to be a forum member.

7. Competitions - A member running the competition can make their own rules, but unless otherwise stated, a member needs to have at least 10 rep points to enter a competition.

8. External Links - A member is allowed to post links to other sites, if they are relevant to the topic in question. If a member wishes to post forum links to any  other site a link back to the forum is necessary, and permission must be obtained from the forum Admin

9. Signatures - Links to other sites in signatures are not permitted without prior permission from the Admin.

10. Copyright - Links to copyrighted material or plagiarising of material outside the forum are not permitted.

11. Issue Resolution and Final Decision - If an issue or decision cannot be settled by PM discussion or mediation, then Admin members will make a final decision. Discussion of issues should be in private rather than in the open forum.

12. Downloaded Material - Members accept responsibility to scan any materials downloaded from the forum for malware. Admin can accept no responsibility for any damage in these cases.

13. Login - A member is allowed one login to this forum, any member with more than a single login will be warned and if that is ignored, they will be banned. If for some reason a second login is needed, please contact the Admin. No exceptions to this rule.

14. Login - Please remember you must be 18 or over to use this forum.

15. Selling - A member is only permitted to sell items on the forum, if they abide by the Selling Rules (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=5.0).

16. Private Messaging - Please do not send Private Messages to members with unsolicited or cold questions. Use the forum, that's what it's here for, plus it helps others with the same question.

17. Private Message Contents - While Private Messages allow members to communicate outside of the forum topics, please remember these communications are stored in the forums database, and they are accessible by administrators, if required by law or that illegal activities or infringement of the forum rules is strongly suspected.

18. Forum Chat - All members are welcome to participate in the Forum Chat. Access is given through requests here (https://www.uklocksport.co.uk/index.php?topic=5579.msg72309#msg72309), once a member has introduced themselves. However, if a member is seen to participate in abuse, spam or disharmony, access will be immediately withdrawn.

19. Play Nice - Complaints of harassment, flaming or insulting behaviour towards a member, Mods or Admin members can result in a temporary or permanent ban. This also refers to members whose forum activities become persistently difficult to deal with and interferes with the harmony of the community or the duties of Mods or Admin. In short, play nice.

20. Hacking - Circumventing, attempting to circumvent, or facilitating circumvention of forum access levels or security measures can be grounds for an immediate ban without warning.



Please read the rules every so often as they may change without notice  ;)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Lock_Noob on 28 November, 2016, 14:26:44
Hi Bumper@654, it appears that despite quoting all the rules, you failed to comply with the first one. Pop over to the 'introduce yourself' thread and tell us a little about yourself  :)
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Dogpoope on 10 April, 2017, 21:57:36
This might be stupid and I should know better but...
As Baldi writes
Bypassing requires little to no skill and can be used by criminals to rob your shed. Picking requires practice and skill, even raking.
Auto is a whole other world that is usually left to professionals and theives.
Part take in all aspects of lock sport but leave some stuff of open forum and public domain.
The above is not taboo as we all do it but don't show to general public.
Does this mean that I can pick a car lock for example but I'm not permitted to put it up on the "What I've picked today"-thread due to rule 2? As a continue to that lock, ok or not ok to send it forward to another member on the site? Use it as a part of a competition?

As I said above, it might be stupid questions and, just to be clear, it's not the rule I'm question. These questions comes more to know how to behave to not violate it. With Baldi's comment in mind.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: meme on 10 April, 2017, 22:14:10
I think baldi's comment "we all do it "does not refer to auto locks

what we do in private is generally our own business but what we do/post on the forum is governed by the rules - no auto locks irrespective of the thread or purpose in the open forum

there is a VIP section where some rules are relaxed but I can tell you that I'd hard pressed to remember a time when auto locks were discussed and I can certainly not remember any car lock pass arounds or competitions etc

in the main, we are all here for locksport and car locks is not part of that

Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: Dogpoope on 10 April, 2017, 22:52:24
Right :) It looks like I read that post in a different way than it was supposed to. That makes sense.

I have no intentions to pass any auto locks around or start a competition with one involved, I felt more that better ask and look stupid for a while than not ask and walk in the dark if it was this or that. I appologise if I went over the line in any meaning, not what I had in mind but it happens sometimes when things comes out wrong.
And again, my sincere appologies.
Title: Re: Please read the rules
Post by: meme on 10 April, 2017, 22:56:37
a lot of times in life it is better (more fun?) to ask for forgiveness rather than permission

but when it comes to forum rules, you did the right thing in getting clarification first